Ipomoea batatas - breeding of Sweet Potato - Camote - New Zealand

Started by Richard Watson, 2018-10-11, 11:20:51 PM

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reed

How are things going with your sweet potatoes down there? Is your season about done? Get lots of seeds and good roots?

Chris Morrison

Still a good 6 weeks to go here. Last year I went thru til end May, but due to growing mainly in 5gallon fabric pots, will quit next month, and assess / weigh up each bags worth. Plenty of seed still coming, which reminds me, I must do another harvest today. and get some pics. How you going RW?

Richard Watson

My older plants are not producing flowers anymore, seem to have lost there vigour but will still have tubers though. One of the plants that came from your seed Chris is a real  good flowering strong growing plant, the rest have not done much. Plans going forward - ask really nicely if you Chris could share some more seed, get them growing before winter and keep inside the house till spring. Take cuttings from the strong growing plant, and next growing season grow the tubers from Marks seed grown plants to see if they start flowering again.
Changeable climate manly during winter & spring - 500mm average yearly rainfall. 23 years of soil improvements plus sub soil top soil reversal means my garden beds are about half metre deep. Below that is 100's of metres of alluvial shingle

Chris Morrison

Happy to share some more seed, but do you really think they will germinate now? More likely August again?

Richard Watson

I cant see why some wouldn't germinate if they are kept warm, I'm thinking having good sized plants before plant out time in late spring might give me a head start, does anyone see any reason why I cant get some germination now, still warm in tunnelhouse for at least two months
Changeable climate manly during winter & spring - 500mm average yearly rainfall. 23 years of soil improvements plus sub soil top soil reversal means my garden beds are about half metre deep. Below that is 100's of metres of alluvial shingle

reed

Quote from: Richard Watson on 2021-03-30, 07:24:46 PM
I cant see why some wouldn't germinate if they are kept warm, I'm thinking having good sized plants before plant out time in late spring might give me a head start, does anyone see any reason why I cant get some germination now, still warm in tunnelhouse for at least two months

I don't know any reason they wouldn't sprout if it's warm enough. Keeping them in good shape over winter is a different issue for me because I don't have a nice temperature consistent place for them. When I keep them like that they live on a south facing window sill that can get very hot when the wood stove is going and the sun is shining in but it's a bit drafty and can get quite cold at night. According to Sandhill Preservation https://www.sandhillpreservation.com/sweet-potato-growing-information and by my own observation warmth is what sweet potatoes like above pretty much all else. Still when plants get scruffy looking from the cold they perk right back up when it warms up.

One thing though at least for me is they do better started over from a new cutting than by planting with an established root system, especially if it is any thing even a little bit close to root bound in a pot. Seems like they just prefer to start over with a new set of roots. That's especially true for good production but I don't know really how it effects flowers.

I've been doing this for awhile but I still don't know what, other than a genetic inclination for it really causes flowering. I've had plants flower after their first set of true leaves from seed and others that never do it at all.

Chris Morrison

I really need to harvest some more seed. Next week will have a decent crack at it, having students back from Uni to help! Then the tell-all root harvest from 5gal fabric pots, should be interesting - not much summer left here now.

reed


Richard Watson

Dug up the USA sourced plants and the roots were absolutely pathetic, looks like they had ran out of puff, oh well, at least seed producing batatas are established, North Island at least, just gotta get a South Island line going. 
Changeable climate manly during winter & spring - 500mm average yearly rainfall. 23 years of soil improvements plus sub soil top soil reversal means my garden beds are about half metre deep. Below that is 100's of metres of alluvial shingle

reed

Yep, some don't make much at all as far as usable roots but if they make seeds they can cross or even mutate into ones that do. Were the plants from fresh starts or did they have established roots when planted? They really do produce better form fresh starts.

Richard, how have you done overall in getting seeds in your own garden?

I have a minor disaster with mine. One of my favorites from last year, actually my most favorite may be lost. I accidentally got it's roots mixed up in the ones stored to eat and the only one I have that I'm sure is it is very small and kind of shriveled up on one end. It isn't quite time to start slips but I went ahead and put it in wet sand to see if I might get a sprout or two. My only other option is pick all those with matching skin color and cut them in two and taste. I have read that you can sprout slips from just a portion of a root but have never tried it.

Richard Watson

Quote from: reed on 2021-04-01, 08:54:36 AM


Richard, how have you done overall in getting seeds in your own garden?

Nothing yet, I'll keep trucking on though

Quote from: reed on 2021-04-01, 08:54:36 AM

I have a minor disaster with mine.


Bugger!! You will get one just as good from seed though at least
Changeable climate manly during winter & spring - 500mm average yearly rainfall. 23 years of soil improvements plus sub soil top soil reversal means my garden beds are about half metre deep. Below that is 100's of metres of alluvial shingle

reed

Quote from: Richard Watson on 2021-04-01, 10:36:14 PM
Bugger!! You will get one just as good from seed though at least
Yea, I reckon so. The genes to make it again are probably in my seeds somewhere and I have it's seeds too, although not separately from the rest of last years. Still hate it though, of all the ones I could have screwed up with it had to be, flavor wise, maybe the best sweet potato I've ever tasted.

Chris Morrison

Attached from a grower mate, in Great Barrier Island, NZ, harvested today'.  RW clone originally from Reed.
11.3kg of edible root, from 1 plant... WOW, anyone ever topped that?

reed

That's a pretty good haul for sure, they can certainly produce. A friend here tries to grow the biggest individual ones he can and there are varieties know for making really big ones. I think his record is around 5 kg for a single root, not sure how many of those he gets from a single plant.

I call those great big ones clunkers and select against them as I like lots of smaller ones in range of .5kg or even less over just a couple giant ones. I generally get maybe 1.5 to 2 kg. per plant growing in the little pots or drastically overcrowded tubs like I do. Gonna test actual production this year in larger and less crowded pots and in ground.

That's sure some interesting colors on those in the picture. Looks like they are white on the inside. How are they flavor wise?

Richard Watson

Interesting looking tubers Chris.
How much seed did he manage to get?
Changeable climate manly during winter & spring - 500mm average yearly rainfall. 23 years of soil improvements plus sub soil top soil reversal means my garden beds are about half metre deep. Below that is 100's of metres of alluvial shingle