Montana Tomato Project

[William Schlegel]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/807438750513630

I started a Facebook group today to try to find nearby seed savers who might want to participate in a local Montana centric tomato breeding effort.

https://permies.com/t/204458/Montana-Tomato-Breeding-Project#1697968

Also posted a note to permies.com Missoula forum to look for any interested parties there.

Would be happy to discuss here as well.

[William Schlegel]

So, one of my favorite ways of doing tomato breeding is to use potato leaf tomatoes with a stigma (female part) of the flower that sticks out a bit. These are more likely to naturally be outcrossed, and I made my first cross this way back in 2017 using a potato leaf mother I got from a tomato mixture that Joseph Lofthouse made. Of the potato leaf tomatoes it had the stigma sticking out a bit more than any of the others in 2017. Though potato leaf tomatoes are famous for sometimes doing this. In 2021 I used the potato leaf descendant of the 2017 cross now named Mission Mountain Sunrise to make a new cross with Big Hill or HX-9 an Open-Source Seed Initiative pledged regular leaf tomato bred by Joseph Lofthouse. I grew that cross out over the winter and got some F2 seed which I planted in the spring and from which I sorted out all the potato leaf plants. I then used those F2 plants which I began calling Mission Mountain Morning to make up the mother portion of some crossing blocks. I didn't have quite enough, and it turned out that Mission Mountain Sunrise had worked well as mothers in 2021 so I substituted in some of them as well especially on crossing blocks where the other parent was of OSSI descent as well. Though it does turn out that Mission Mountain Sunrise is more dependent on hot weather for the stigma to stick out of the anther cone than is Big Hill. Hopefully Mission Mountain Morning will be less weather dependent.

I made a larger than normal number of deliberate hand crosses in 2022 but what I want to talk about here is the crossing block crosses! The crossing block crosses aren't emasculated, and they may or may not have happened. Though they are likely to generate several Mission Mountain Sunrise F6 and Mission Mountain Morning F3 seedlings as well. In fact- it will be the only way to get such seedlings! The regular leaf seedlings will be F1 hybrids, and the potato leaf seedlings will be selfed.

11?   MMS x Dwarf Mocha's Cherry
This cross number 11 if it indeed happened is between Mission Mountain Sunrise and Dwarf Mocha's Cherry an OSSI registered anthocyanin skinned dwarf. Any offspring of this cross would-be regular leaf with any selfed seedlings being potato leaved and therefore easy to pick out (and hopefully those will find a good home). This would be a great way to get dwarfism and anthocyanin better fixed into a dwarf tomato.

12?   MMS x OSSI Dwarfs
A similar cross to number 11 but with any of several OSSI dwarf varieties though I think the seeds I picked were from a plant right next to Dwarf Kelley's Green which was one of my absolute favorite flavors. No anthocyanin on the dwarf side though.

13?   MMM x The One (Fruity promiscuous)
The One is a fruity promiscuous project strain. Its heritage is something like 12.5% Solanum habrochaites, 12.5% Solanum penellii, and 75% domestic. Its 2021 parent was a dwarf resulting from the wild cross with truly amazing fruity flavor. In 2022 I didn't taste a bad one, but they varied from almost as good as the 2021 parent to normal tomato taste. Any regular leaf plant from this crossing block is a cross with it. So, it could be a truly amazing tomato- or normal. Still getting 12.5% wild genetics is probably a good deal for tomato diversity.

14?    MMM x Unknown (Diversity Garden)
This is a wild card. The Mission Mountain Morning mother had some of the longest stigmas of the entire F2 population. So bound to have picked up some pollen. The mother was in a tightly woven row with lots and lots of tomato varieties. So, it's possible that every regular leaf seedling from this tomato could have a different father. Or they could mostly be from whatever was closest!

15?   MMM x LA1410 Galapagense
I really wanted to cross MMM and LA1410 Solanum galapagense in 2022. I did manage to make a deliberate cross with a hybrid that turned up. However, I think the 50:50 parentage F1 might just be in this seed lot waiting for us to recognize the regular leaf seedling! Should be interesting to find out. I can't wait.

[Tim DH]

Hi William,
   Thanks for the synopsis of your Block Crossing protocol. You've mentioned MMM and MMS a few times since I've joined the Forum, but I'd never really grasped it.

   I do like the 'dreaming' aspect of this time of year. .... Trying to plan for the PERFECT season!

   Here's hoping!!

Tim DH

[William Schlegel]

Future Desired Crosses in 2023 and beyond

Here is a list of domestic tomatoes I still want to make crosses with. Not to mention wild species of tomatoes and half sibling crosses I also will want to make. What tomatoes do you want to cross together?

Exserted Tiger
This is a tomato cross I made in 2017 it is Blue Ambrosia x Amurski Tigr and was an open cross without emasculation, so I didn't know it worked until 2019 when stripes showed up in the F2. As a cross it has blue skin, stripes, and a stigma that sticks out a good bit. It isn't completely stable yet, but I would like to cross it with Mission Mountain Morning. Blue Ambrosia is bred by Lee Goodwin and is part of his Ambrosia series where he followed the strange foliage smell of Sungold F1 down through generations of segregation and outcrosses to try to keep its unique flavor. Amurski Tigr is a short season striped red of Russian or Soviet origin which I picked up originally as a seedling in 2016 from the tomato lady at the Missoula Farmer's Market.

Exserted Orange
This is my line of a collaborative cross with Big Hill HX-9 made in the garden of a fellow named Malcolm then grown in the F1 by Joseph. I grew out the F2 and selected it for the one with the stigma that stuck out the most. Then grew out the F3 and F4 isolated. I would like to cross it with Mission Mountain Morning to get the orange color but with the blue and the potato leaves of Mission Mountain Morning.

Blue Golden Tresette
This is a cross with interesting shapes I found in a packet of Alan Kapuler's Golden Tresette. I noticed one plant with a slight blue blush. Turned out to be an F1 and the F2 segregated wildly into some very nice looking chile shaped tomatoes. Unfortunately, the flavor can be off putting. Golden Tresette is interesting because it is one of Alan's tomatoes that sometimes outcross, and this would be an example. I would like to cross it with Mission Mountain Morning to see if I can get some interesting shapes without the odd flavor. Golden Tresette is interesting because Alan claimed it might be a three species cross.

Coyote
Coyote also known as White Currant is a standout small, fruited tomato with Mexican origins. It has good/interesting flavor and is early. I have been meaning to make a cross with it for a long time.

Dwarf Eagle Smiley
One of my favorites from the OSSI dwarf tomato project. I think it has good flavor. So, a good candidate for crossing with Mission Mountain Morning.

Muddy Waters
The fanciest looking of the three best flavored green when ripe tomatoes I grew in 2022. It has stripes, anthocyanin, and great flavor. So, I want to cross it with Mission Mountain Morning.

Amethyst Cream
A white tomato that is also blue bred by Brad Gate's it has been a garden favorite now for a long time. It is fancy with its Anthocyanin blue blush over such pale fruit, and it has great flavor. I would like it crossed with Mission Mountain Morning.

Fuzzy
A Tim Peters interspecies cross maintained and sent to me by a fellow amateur tomato breeder who would like me to cross it with Tim's "Fruity" strain. I would also like to cross it with Mission Mountain Morning.

Fruity
A Tim Peters interspecies cross maintained and sent to me by a fellow amateur tomato breeder who would like me to cross it with Tim's "Fuzzy" strain. I would also like to cross it with Mission Mountain Morning.

Glacier
A local favorite tomato that has long done well here in Western Montana. I would like to cross it into the project just for that reason.

Yellow Pear
Back in the 1980s yellow pear tomatoes were probably the fanciest tomato we grew. I like that shape and want to cross it into something else.

Stupice
A local favorite tomato that has long done well here in Western Montana. I would like to cross it into the project just for that reason.

Flamenco
A heat tolerant tomato bred from Silvery Fir Tree which is a short season tomato and with the carrot leaves of that parent. I want to cross this in because heat tolerance is getting more important with climate change.

Bison
A North Dakota bred tomato with the name of my favorite animal.

Payette
An early modern Idaho bred tomato which happens to be dwarf and resistant to Curly Top virus spread by leaf hoppers. It has some very dilute wild ancestry.

[William Schlegel]

Tomatoes I have successfully crossed into the Montana Tomato Project So Far:

1.   Unknown Lofthouse Potato Leaf. I noticed the stigma stuck out a bit on this one plant from Joseph Lofthouse's seed mix in 2017. So I daubed pollen on it.

2.   Blue Gold a blue blushed yellow/red marbled bicolor bred by Brad Gates of Wild Boar Farm in California.

3.   Blue Ambrosia a tomato bred by Lee Goodwin in New Mexico. He dehybridized Sungold F1 and then crossed that with a blue skinned tomato he bred from Oregon State University developed material related to their 2012 blue skinned tomato release. The strain I received had stigmas that stuck out a long way on 4 out of 5 plants.


4.   Amurski Tigr a tomato I bought from the tomato lady at Missoula's Clark Fork Market in 2016. It is short season, red, indeterminate, and striped.

5.   Solanum pimpinellifolium accession PI 270443 because it is reportedly known to have a trait called PH5 for late blight resistance.


6.   Solanum pimpinillifolium accession PI 365967 because it reportedly has resistance to a new tomato disease called the brown rugose fruit virus.

7.   Sweet Cherriette a currant tomato bred by Tim Peters that ripens in just 35 days from transplant IF a nicely grown large eight week old seedling is outplanted.


8.   Aztek a micro dwarf yellow fruited tomato I bought from Bunny Hop seeds. I've been told by other breeders that crosses with it produce both regular and micro dwarfs.

9.   Big Hill HX-9 a OSSI pledged regular leaf determinate yellow and red marbled bicolor. It is bred from a Hillbilly x Jagodka cross. It has stigmas that stick out nicely seemingly independent of the weather here.


10.   Solanum habrochaites LA2329. This is an extremely unpalatable green when ripe wild species tomato with extremely hairy foliage and fruit. It is known for arthropod resistance.

11.   Promiscuous project tomatoes are bred by Joseph Lofthouse. They are complex hybrids between domestic tomatoes, Solanum habrochaites, and Solanum penellii with about 75% domestic and 25% wild genetics selected over several generations for good flavor. Though still variable in that regard.


12.    Solanum galapagense hybrid- this was a hybrid between Solanum galapagense and domestic tomato that showed up in my 2022 garden. I managed to make a cross with it and Mission Mountain Morning. I am not sure if the original cross happened in my 2022 garden or maybe at Heirloom Reviews seeds garden.

13.   Brad's Atomic Grape- this is a green/red bicolor with stripes and blue blush bred by Brad Gates


14.   Purple Zebra F1 this is a hybrid with multiple disease resistance including PH2 and PH3 late blight resistance bred by the Artisan Seeds group including Mark Mccasslin. More interestingly it is supposed to also have heirloom flavor and that seems to be true. Purple in this sense is in the Cherokee Purple type of purple.

15.   Dwarf Gloria's Treat this is a yellow and red bicolor from the Dwarf Tomato project pledged to OSSI and with excellent flavor.

[William Schlegel]

https://snakeriverseeds.com/products/tomato-mission-mountain-sunrise?_pos=4&_sid=393a2c86a&_ss=r

[Kadence Luneman]

https://snakeriverseeds.com/products/tomato-mission-mountain-sunrise?_pos=4&_sid=393a2c86a&_ss=r

They look lovely!

[William Schlegel]

I got some tips recently that there is a Fisher's Earliest Paste tomato from Fisher's seeds in Belgrade Montana in existence and a Wyoming tomato called Wilford. I ordered a packet of Wilford and I got an email back from someone who has the tomato from Belgrade Montana. Kind of exciting. Montana is both surrounded by states and provinces with unique tomatoes and may have one of its own.

Hmm and just as I said this I found two more: McClintock and High Country. Both with Montana roots.

[William Schlegel]

2023 Tomatoes to Plant
Amethyst Cream
Anmore Dewdrop 2018 from BC
Payette from Idaho
Golden Bison North Dakota
Cheesemanii Hybrid from Terrior Seeds original packet from Andrew
Coyote
exserted orange stock seed
Exserted red tiger with best blue for stock seed 2020
Forest Fire 2017
Subartic plenty original packet from Alberta
Yellow Tiger 2020 Volunteer NOT FOR DISTRIBUTION
Black Cherry
Galahad F1
Wagner Muddy Waters
Dwarf Eagle Smiley
Mission Mountain Morning F3
LA2329
LA1410
MMM X LA2329
MMM X galapagense x Unknown
Galapagense x Unknown
MMM X galapagense
BH X LA2329
Promiscuous x LA2329
MMM X(Promiscuous X LA2329)
Mission Mountain Rising F2!
MMS X Dwarf Mix if worked
MMS x Dwarf was blue
MMM X The one! If worked
MMM X Sweet Cherriette = Mission Mountain Early F2!
MMM X Unknowns
MMM X Brad's Atomic Grape
MMM x Brown Rugose tolerant current
MMM x Late blight resistant current PH5
MMM X Purple Zebra
Dwarf Gloria's Treat x currents
Farthest North which is Bison X current from North Dakota
Dwarf Moby's Cherry
Spoon?
Uluru Ochre
Mingold?
Azoychka?
Utah Heart
Child of Utah Heart
Small Fruit Mix
Mr Stripy
Hoosier Rose
Fruity
Fuzzy
Fisher's Earliest Paste a Montanan
McClintock a Montanan
Wilford from Wyoming

[William Schlegel]

2023 Crossing Blocks Draft
1.   Arthropod Resistance New Fenced Garden
   LA2329 and LA1410 and descendants
   MMM x  The One if it worked
2.   Disease Resistance Ronan House again
a.   Brown Rugose Virus MMM x Pimp
b.   Late Blight MMM x Pimp, MMM x Purple Zebra F1
c.   Galahad F1
d.   Reed's five tomatoes
e.   MMM F3
3.   New Domestic Crosses MMS and MMM X domestics including Aztek, Brad's Atomic Grape, Sweet Cherriette, OSSI Dwarfs Old Fenced Garden
4.   MMM F3 x Fruity Missoula Deck
5.   MMM F3 x Fuzzy West Central garden
6.   MMM F3 x Exserted Orange NW Garden
7.   MMM F3 x Yellow Tiger NE garden
8.   MMM F3 x Payette SW garden

May need to shuffle this around a bit. Ideally I would make more crosses than ever before in a single year while growing more of my crosses out to the exciting F2!

[William Schlegel]

Triple Divide Seeds has Mandarin Mini Cherry Tomato. A Montana original dating back 25 years to Garden City Seeds.

[Steph S]

Mission Mountain Sunrise looks great, William.  Kudos for getting the seeds out there.

[William Schlegel]

Mission Mountain Sunrise looks great, William.  Kudos for getting the seeds out there.

It isn't stable yet.

It also has F1 and F2 grandchildren and children I plan to grow out in 2023:

MMM X LA2329 if worked
MMM X (galapagense x Unknown)
MMM X galapagense LA1410 if worked
MMM X (Promiscuous X LA2329)
MMM x Aztek = Mission Mountain Rising F2!
MMS X Dwarf Mix if worked
MMS x Dwarf Mocha's if worked
MMM X The one! If worked
MMM X Sweet Cherriette = Mission Mountain Early F2!
MMM X Unknowns if worked
MMM X Brad's Atomic Grape
MMM x Brown Rugose tolerant current
MMM x Late blight resistant current PH5
MMM X Purple Zebra

[William Schlegel]

I have a small result. I planted 10 cells with a Mission Mountain Morning so F3 generation. The F2 grew in the diversity garden with many varieties and had perhaps the best stigma exsertion of the generation. Of 13 seedlings one is an obvious regular leaf F1 hybrid with an unknown father. Twelve are MMM F3. So 1/13 outcross rate.

I can't wait to plant seed from more deliberate crossing blocks where the father will be known.

[Randy Simmons]

In January I replanted some of the MMR seeds you sent me.  This planting had 3 dwarfs, all regular leaf. Yesterday I saw the first flower and buzzed it.  Like my plants of The One! I want to get as much seed from them as possible.