Montana Tomato Project

[William Schlegel]

I have a small result. I planted 10 cells with a Mission Mountain Morning so F3 generation. The F2 grew in the diversity garden with many varieties and had perhaps the best stigma exsertion of the generation. Of 13 seedlings one is an obvious regular leaf F1 hybrid with an unknown father. Twelve are MMM F3. So 1/13 outcross rate.

I can't wait to plant seed from more deliberate crossing blocks where the father will be known.

It bumped up to 2/13 regular leaf then I gave the whole flat away at the seed swap.

[William Schlegel]

https://www.seedstrust.com/tomatoes/tomato-early-prairie-fire

Ken Fisher used to sell three tomatoes that I just got today from a seed saver. Prairie Fire, Fisher's Earliest Paste, and Mountain Boy.

Trying to find more info.

[Joseph Lofthouse]

lucky you, to get Fisher varieties.

[William Schlegel]

Definitely Fisher's work is an important part of Montana's gardening heritage. I don't know that much. Would like to get my hands on an old catalogue and a few other things of his. I think his corn is likely a part of my sweet corn grex from way back.

[William Schlegel]

I planted some tomato seeds!

Planted   2023 Tomatoes to Plant 4_2_23 update
   1.       Amethyst Cream
Y   2.       Anmore Dewdrop 2018 from BC*
Y   3.       Payette from Idaho*
Y   4.       Sandpoint from Idaho*
Y   5.       Golden Bison North Dakota*
Y   6.       Cheesemanii Hybrid from Terrior Seeds*
Y   7.       exserted orange stock seed*
Y   8.       Exserted red tiger with best blue for stock seed 2020 *
Y   9.       Mission Mountain Sunrise (from crossing blocks (at least two packets to plant)
Y   10.   Wagner Muddy Waters
Y   11.   Dwarf Eagle Smiley*
Y 2/3   12.   Mission Mountain Morning F3 (from crossing blocks at least three packets to plant)
?   13.   Galapagos Island Tomato #2
?   14.   Galapagos Island Tomato type 3
?   15.   Galapagos Wild Tomato Hairy Strain (Minor) Type 1
Y   16.   LA0428 & LA0429
Y   17.   LA1404 s. Cheesemaniae
Y   18.   LA2329 habrochaites
Y   19.   LA1410 galapagense
Y   20.   MMM X LA2329
Y   21.   MMM X (galapagense x Unknown)
   22.   Galapagense x Unknown (Can direct seed)
Y   23.   MMM X galapagense (crossing block with LA1410)
Y   24.   BH X LA2329- one sprouted
Y   25.   Promiscuous x LA2329 – F2 sprouted
Y   26.   MMM X(Promiscuous X LA2329) - sprouted
Y   27.   Mission Mountain Rising F2!
Y   28.   MMS X Dwarf Mix if worked
Y   29.   MMS x Dwarf Mocha's Cherry
Y   30.   MMM X The one! If worked
Y   31.   MMM X Sweet Cherriette = Mission Mountain Early F2!
   32.   MMM X Unknowns
Y   33.   MMM X Brad's Atomic Grape
Y   34.   MMM x Brown Rugose tolerant current
Y   35.   MMM x Late blight resistant current PH5
Y   36.   MMM X Purple Zebra
Y   37.   Dwarf Gloria's Treat x currents
Y   38.   Farthest North which is Bison X current from North Dakota*
Y   39.   Spoon?*
Y   40.   Uluru Ochre*
Y   41.   Utah Heart*
Y   42.   Mr. Stripy*
Y   43.   Hoosier Rose*
Y   44.   Fruity*
Y   45.   Fuzzy*
Y   46.   McClintock a Montanan*
Y   47.   Wilford from Wyoming*
Y   48.   Mandarin Mini a Montanan*
Y   49.   Sunviva OSSI's European Sister*
Y   50.   Ida Gold*
Y   51.   Flamenco
Y   52.   Krainiy Sever
Y   53.   Fisher's Earliest Paste a Montanan?*
Y   54.   Fisher's Prairie Fire a Montanan?!- corroborated at least once.*
Y   55.   Fisher's Mountain Boy a Montanan?*
   *= Found

[William Schlegel]

Fun result. I did a deliberate Dwarf Mocha's Cherry x Mission Mountain Sunrise cross. I thought I had maybe one viable seed and some crud. While some of that crud is germinating! I think I spotted at least sixteen seedlings.

[William Schlegel]

Here is a photo of a little 40 cell flat with forty different things in it.

[William Schlegel]

Planted   2023 Tomatoes to Plant 4_9_23 update
y   1.       Amethyst Cream
Y   2.       Anmore Dewdrop 2018 from BC*
Y   3.       Payette from Idaho*
Y   4.       Sandpoint from Idaho*
Y   5.       Golden Bison North Dakota*
Y   6.       Cheesemanii Hybrid from Terrior Seeds*
Y   7.       exserted orange stock seed*
Y   8.       Exserted red tiger with best blue for stock seed 2020 *
Y   9.       Mission Mountain Sunrise (from crossing blocks (at least two packets to plant)
Y   10.   Wagner Muddy Waters
Y   11.   Dwarf Eagle Smiley*
Y   12.   Mission Mountain Morning F3 (from crossing blocks at least three packets to plant)
?   13.   Galapagos Island Tomato #2
?   14.   Galapagos Island Tomato type 3
?   15.   Galapagos Wild Tomato Hairy Strain (Minor) Type 1
Y   16.   LA0428 & LA0429
Y   17.   LA1404 s. Cheesemaniae
Y   18.   LA2329 habrochaites
Y   19.   LA1410 galapagense
Y   20.   MMM X LA2329
Y   21.   MMM X (galapagense x Unknown)
N   22.   Galapagense x Unknown (Can direct seed)
Y   23.   MMM X galapagense (crossing block with LA1410)
Y   24.   BH X LA2329- one sprouted
Y   25.   Promiscuous x LA2329 – F2 sprouted
Y   26.   MMM X(Promiscuous X LA2329) - sprouted
Y   27.   Mission Mountain Rising F2!
Y   28.   MMS X Dwarf Mix if worked
Y   29.   MMS x Dwarf Mocha's Cherry
Y   30.   MMM X The one! If worked
Y   31.   MMM X Sweet Cherriette = Mission Mountain Early F2!
Y   32.   MMM X Unknowns
Y   33.   MMM X Brad's Atomic Grape
Y   34.   MMM x Brown Rugose tolerant current
Y   35.   MMM x Late blight resistant current PH5
Y   36.   MMM X Purple Zebra
Y   37.   Dwarf Gloria's Treat x currents
Y   38.   Farthest North which is Bison X current from North Dakota*
Y   39.   Spoon?*
Y   40.   Uluru Ochre*
Y   41.   Utah Heart*
Y   42.   Mr. Stripy*
Y   43.   Hoosier Rose*
Y   44.   Fruity*
Y   45.   Fuzzy*
Y   46.   McClintock a Montanan*
Y   47.   Wilford from Wyoming*
Y   48.   Mandarin Mini a Montanan*
Y   49.   Sunviva OSSI's European Sister*
Y   50.   Ida Gold*
Y   51.   Flamenco
Y   52.   Krainiy Sever
Y   53.   Fisher's Earliest Paste a Montanan?*
Y   54.   Fisher's Prairie Fire a Montanan?!- corroborated at least once.*
Y   55.   Fisher's Mountain Boy a Montanan?*
Y   56 Coyote / White Current
   *= Found but I found these all now except for the three ? islanders that I need to check on.

[Nicolas]

Nice ! Have you acquired fruity and fuzzy from a member of this board or is there a commercial source ?

I'll be growing Tim's taste of paradise and can't wait to taste it !

[William Schlegel]

A fellow plant breeder sent Fruity and Fuzzy to me and asked me to cross them! Which I shall be attempting!

[William Schlegel]

This is fun the (MMM F1 x Aztek) has height segregation and curved leaves on some seedlings.

[Cathy A]

I will watch for segregation on my MMM x Aztek. I'm only growing a few plants, but you never know.

I will also be interested to see if I get noticeable segregation on my Sungold F2, which were only taken from one or two F1 plants.

[Randy Simmons]

I am doing small batches too.  It was cool to pick out the dwarfs.  This time I got 3.  One is sort of Jagodka sized and has 5 tomatoes on it at about 10 weeks old.  Another has one tomato and the third is much smaller and hasn't flowered yet.

[Kadence Luneman]

Is there an ideal time to sort the seedlings for micro, dwarf, non dwarf?

[Diane Whitehead]

I have seeds of furry tomatoes from Croatia. I bought them to see if deer would not eat them.

They call them "wooly" and sell 21 kinds.

https://croatianseeds-store.com/index.php/croatian-seeds-store/65/tomatoes/wooly-tomatoes/results,1-0