Tomato Varieties in MT, ND, SD, ID, Alberta, British Columbia, Saskatchewan, WY

[Tim DH]

Hi William,
     Of the seven varieties thrown up by your Bing analysis, one, Ida Gold is new to me. .... I'll have to give it a whirl sometime!

     Thanks

Tim DH

[William Schlegel]

Hi William,
     Of the seven varieties thrown up by your Bing analysis, one, Ida Gold is new to me. .... I'll have to give it a whirl sometime!

     Thanks

Tim DH

It was a surprise to me how well Idagold fared in my little analysis of availability. It is also a pleasant surprise that I already managed a cross with it I'm pretty happy with. I should prioritize growing out that cross.

[William Schlegel]

For Alberta tomatoes I previously had and grew:


Sub Arctic Maxi
Sub Arctic Plenty
Beaverlodge 6714

I picked up new to me Seed today for:

Beaverlodge 6806 Plum
Beaverlodge 6808 Slicer

I don't know much about the three Beaverlodge varieties though I think they were bred at the same experiment station as the subarctic series. Let me know if you know where to find some more details like when they were bred. 

[William Schlegel]

It was a surprise to me how well Idagold fared in my little analysis of availability. It is also a pleasant surprise that I already managed a cross with it I'm pretty happy with. I should prioritize growing out that cross.

I got no germination on my Idagold cross 2024 saved seed and haven't yet found any other packets of it. Still some seed- but I am thinking I may have to make a new cross with it.

[William Schlegel]

I made at least one successful looking cross with Beaverlodge 6808 x LA1385. Attempted Beaverlodge 6808 x 314 which is my cross with Dwarf Eagle Smiley x (MMM x LA1375) today.

[William Schlegel]

Bison x MMM has segregated to Blue Bicolor.

[Adrian]

I got no germination on my Idagold cross 2024 saved seed and haven't yet found any other packets of it. Still some seed- but I am thinking I may have to make a new cross with it.

Sometimes the seeds can take more of one month to germinated.
A small T I P that i use when they dont want germinated is that i assemblie all the potting soil of the pots or nothing has germinated in a planter and i rakes the potting soil regulary.The depth can  played.

I have noted a stranger thing for wake-up the sleeping. some tomato seeds requided a small drought period between two humid periods.
The soil can stayed constantly humid  some seeds will never germinated but the will wait a drought share of a humid period.

Very beautiful fruit!

[William Schlegel]

Thanks Adrian, I will try again next spring to germinate that remaining seed.

I've made crosses this year between my 366 dwarf plant a Payette descendant and Home Stoop a OSSI Stupice cross and Glacier. This combines both local regional breeding with some of the most popular local tomatoes!

Home Stoop x 366 dwarf
Glacier x 366 dwarf

Crossing them with each other in the F1 would make sense. The result could be some very practical red tomatoes with good local adaptation. Though I shall have to make some additional crosses eventually to bring in some flashy colors and flavors as well.

Actually one of the larger crossing efforts of this year has been crossing the 366 dwarf payette descended plant I segregated out with lots of other lines. Payette based dwarfs. So there will likely be some with fun colors and flavors. Also the 366 dwarf plant is the one I most systematically attempted to cross with the University of Kentucky Arthropod resistant breeding lines. It struck me that since the true bugs that spread curly top virus could maybe be slowed down by arthropod resistance that crossing the Payette curly top resistance with arthropod resistance might result in a very practical and useful regional tomato.

[Cathy A]

Is there a genetic distinction between blue and black? Or is blue just a visual effect of attenuated black blended with other typical tomato colors?

Purple is a whole other thing. I grew Purple Bumblebee for the first time this year, and kept thinking that the fruit wasn't ripe yet!

[William Schlegel]

Blue is anthocyanin. Black could be several things including anthocyanin.