Gama Grass seed source

Started by pierre rutten, 2025-01-09, 11:54:29 AM

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pierre rutten

Who knows where to buy Game Grass seeds.
I would like to grow GG in order to try crossing it with corn. Only one I find here France is a decorative one probably cloned. I would like to test an hypothesis: that Teosinte is a Corn x GG hybrid.

Thomas Pic

I got some fresh of this year from a friend who encouraged me to do some crosses with corn too. I am in France as you are. He uses that in pastures, cows love it.

Carter Phillips

Quote from: pierre rutten on 2025-01-09, 11:54:29 AMWho knows where to buy Game Grass seeds.
I would like to grow GG in order to try crossing it with corn. Only one I find here France is a decorative one probably cloned. I would like to test an hypothesis: that Teosinte is a Corn x GG hybrid.

Unfortunately, this hypothesis has little support nowadays. At one point there was serious debate surrounding the ancestry of corn, but genome sequencing has failed to reveal any significant recent contribution by tripsacum to the corn genome. Even so, it is still worthwhile to hybridize the two species. I am trying to hybridize corn and gamagrass in order to create perennial corn. Supposedly the species Zea diploperennis is easier to cross with gamagrass (Tripsacum dactyloides). I don't know what kind of seed resources you have access to in the EU but it might be worth your time to try and hybridize gamagrass with Zea diploperennis, and then hybridize their offspring with corn.

Erik van Lennep

Quote from: pierre rutten on 2025-01-09, 11:54:29 AMWho knows where to buy Game Grass seeds.
I would like to grow GG in order to try crossing it with corn. Only one I find here France is a decorative one probably cloned. I would like to test an hypothesis: that Teosinte is a Corn x GG hybrid.

Just saw this year-old post. I am in Spain, and also would like to find seed for Eastern Gamma Grass, as well as for Zea diploperennis

Erik

Carter Phillips

For you Europeans, you might want to check out this website (https://www.seedenergies.fr/fr/produit/gamagrass/). If you're planning on hybridizing gamagrass with maize or teosinte you should call the people who run this site to find out what the ploidy (the chromosome count) of their varieties is. I see the minimum amount they sell is very expensive but you could possibly get a smaller amount if you contact them over the phone. Diploperennis will be harder to get. Eurisco (https://eurisco.ipk-gatersleben.de/apex/eurisco/r/eurisco/home) should have a link to one of the European seed banks with some Z. diploperennis accessions. In the US I was able to get seeds from our seed bank as a normal citizen but you might need to be affiliated with a university depending on which country you live in.