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Re: Hybrid of tomato more diversity
« Reply #30 on: 2021-08-06, 05:48:49 AM »
I have see a lot of cross avorted but i think one cross is good.I have see a cross not avorted but the fruit has not get fat about one week.
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Re: Hybrid of tomato more diversity
« Reply #31 on: 2021-08-06, 09:32:33 AM »
I have did this cross about one week ago.
The fruit look get fat but very slowly.
Its the most big of the bunch.
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Re: Hybrid of tomato more diversity
« Reply #32 on: 2021-08-07, 02:36:27 AM »
Two cross look also good
The first is a andean but she as a stranger form
Someone know why this tomato is different that the tomatos of this
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Re: Hybrid of tomato more diversity
« Reply #33 on: 2021-08-09, 01:49:36 PM »
Canestrino di lucca is the alone variety able to did fruits at shadow and fight against the blight this year.This year is extremly humid.
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Re: Hybrid of tomato more diversity
« Reply #34 on: 2021-08-10, 03:54:30 AM »
I have did a new cross between cuor di bue and canestrino di lucca
This two varietys are moderetely exsert!
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Re: Hybrid of tomato more diversity
« Reply #35 on: 2021-08-10, 09:06:22 AM »
For the resistance at the blight, i have think to use solanum pimpinelifolium the inconvenient is my pimpinelifolium are not very tasty.Someone know a tasty pinpinelifolium
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Re: Hybrid of tomato more diversity
« Reply #36 on: 2021-08-11, 12:52:52 PM »
She get fat.Someone know why this tomato is different of the tomatos of this  bunch
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Re: Hybrid of tomato more diversity
« Reply #37 on: 2021-08-11, 02:54:03 PM »
I've seen this before Adrian - the crossed tomato is fatter than the others.  I think that means you did a great job of pollinating, and will be full of seeds.

As for the complete changes of shape,  some shape genetics is clearly under the control of gene expression.  Environment can produce changes of shape when it affects gene expression.  It also depends on basic genetics of the plant, but in many cases there is a possibility of variable shape.
But I also suspect the tomato plant itself has some control of gene expression in the fruit.   The plants are sociable with one another, and I have often seen plants imitate the fruit shape of another plant.  I used to think it was because I admired a certain fruit shape out loud.  Then before you know it, the plant next door to it was producing the same shape.  This year I have two plants next to each other, where one cluster got entangled with a cluster of the other fruit, and yes they totally imitated the shape of their neighbor in that cluster, while the fruit above and below were different.
Also this year I made a cross using pollen of a big heart (AYOX) to a small beef which does have a pointed end in its genetics, but the pointed shapes are generally not visible in the mature fruit.   However after making the cross with two blossoms on this plant, it went on to produce separately a whole cluster of heart shaped fruit.  As if to say, I can do this.   I don't believe it is a genetic mechanism because I've seen them imitate each other with no cross present, and there is no such mechanism that I know of (but tell me if I'm wrong).  I just think... tomatoes are smarter than we think.  ;)  They want you to admire them and save their seeds.   
Crazy huh.  This is what happens when you treat your tomato plants as household pets.

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Re: Hybrid of tomato more diversity
« Reply #38 on: 2021-08-21, 02:39:17 AM »
This cross beetween canestrino di lucca and cuor di bue is good?
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Re: Hybrid of tomato more diversity
« Reply #39 on: 2021-08-27, 01:12:51 PM »
The horn andean crossed with canestrino di lucca get fat!
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Re: Hybrid of tomato more diversity
« Reply #40 on: 2021-09-25, 12:48:57 AM »
The andine cornue cross with canestrino di lucca is doing mature!

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Re: Hybrid of tomato more diversity
« Reply #41 on: 2021-09-25, 01:43:36 PM »
The form of the andine cornue that i have cross with canestrino di lucca is very funny! It the alone tomato to have this form on the plant.You right Steph S it crazy this phenomene!
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Re: Hybrid of tomato more diversity
« Reply #42 on: 2021-10-02, 03:14:51 PM »
This year was extremly humid for me and it was a great surprise when i have look that canestrino di lucca was the alone variety able to resist at the blight this year and one plant was grow at shadow.
I don't know what is the genes of resistance at the blight of this variety but i was very surprised! Ph2 and heterozygote?

She has the stylet exsert.I think really we underestime the power of the genetic diversity.
My cross between canestrino di lucca and andine cornue is a sucess!Unfortunately i think i have choose the less vigorous plant of andine cornue for did my cross.All the plants came of the same tomato but i have look i have see two differents phenotypes of andine cornue:the first is vigorous with long internodes but he is extremly sensitive at the apical necrosis and the second is less vigorous with  courts internodes and inrolled leafs but he has big fruits.
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Re: Hybrid of tomato more diversity
« Reply #43 on: 2021-10-03, 01:43:48 AM »
Seeds of the tomato canestrino di lucca x andine cornue.
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Re: Hybrid of tomato more diversity
« Reply #44 on: 2021-10-06, 02:16:28 PM »
I will soon harvested my second tomato hybrided. Its a canestrino di lucca crossed with andine cornue.
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