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Lauren

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Re: Watermelon Landrace (project)
« Reply #15 on: 2019-08-19, 09:57:03 PM »
Yes, that's the most dependable indicator, but it's also dependent on variety. Last year I did Hopi Red and they were ripe when the tendril was just starting to dry. Others it's fully dry. I've never found one (so far) that's ripe when the tendril is still entirely green, though.

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Re: Watermelon Landrace (project)
« Reply #16 on: 2019-08-20, 06:27:31 AM »
I've never found one (so far) that's ripe when the tendril is still entirely green, though.
Me neither, actually it is a trait I select for. If I pick one with brown tendril and faded bottom side and it isn't right there in the sweet spot of nicely ripe but not over so, I don't keep its seeds. Actually that is very rare and what ever I might not have liked about it probably wasn't even related to weather or not it's ripe, but something else.

I select for quick maturity, drought and disease tolerance, great, sweet, watermelony flavor, varied color and small, less than ten lb size. I favor seed from those under 10 lb and don't save any from those over 15. Only been at it a few seasons but already settling into a nice 5 - 10 Lb range and lots of variation in color.

I started with my own Bush Sugar Baby and a couple others I've forgotten and mixes from Joseph and Ferdzy. I think the traits I like best came form Ferdzy's seeds.

I'd be farther along but short on space so only plat them every other year.

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Re: Watermelon Landrace (project)
« Reply #17 on: 2019-08-20, 08:19:43 AM »
I'm still trying to get the mix established, so I can't be quite that selective yet. Like I said, only four varieties mixed in so far and I want at least six. But a few are growing reliably in my (deliberately) nasty conditions, so something is working! My goal is a large (large for me, I guess medium for anyone else--I don't want a monster melon I can't lift or carry easily) sweet red melon without blossom end rot or bug damage, and preferably heat and cold tolerant. No summer wilt this year on those that survived. I had one I planned to mix in but I haven't been able to get more seeds because the bugs killed it. Every. Time. So I decided not to use it. I'm removing all male blossoms from the late bloomers and I won't keep seeds from them.

One of these days I'm going to have a discussion with Joseph--one of the plants from his seeds has a fully developed female flower (I think it pollinated but I'm not sure yet) and the ovary is smaller than my pinky nail. I've never seen one that small. I'm guessing the fully developed melon will be less than 3 inches in diameter, if that.

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Re: Watermelon Landrace (project)
« Reply #18 on: 2019-08-20, 11:31:26 PM »
Where do you live?

edit: I just found out :)

Mind you it would be nice if everyone had where they are in the world
Changeable year round climate with warming winters - just under 500mm average yearly rainfall. 20 years of soil improvements plus sub soil top soil reversal means my garden beds are about half metre deep. Below that is 100's of metres of alluvial out wash from the Southern
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Re: Watermelon Landrace (project)
« Reply #19 on: 2019-08-22, 09:56:58 PM »
I need to find this little curly tendril ASAP
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Re: Watermelon Landrace (project)
« Reply #20 on: 2019-08-23, 06:53:25 AM »
It'll be right by the base of the watermelon, next to the stem where it's connected to the plant. See it?

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Re: Watermelon Landrace (project)
« Reply #21 on: 2019-08-23, 08:51:47 AM »
Yep, I was out to my melon patch this morning and found them. Still about as green as the one in your picture. Melons look full size (small) too.
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