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B. Copping

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General Pea Information.
« on: 2019-02-11, 01:11:11 PM »
A thread for general information about peas (not cultivar specific)
So please post your gems here. :)
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PEAS
                        HEIGHT        SPACING          READY(to eat)
                        -Supports     Plant  Row

Dwarf               Up to 2’       2-3”   18-24”    60 days
(Early)                -Not usually

Half-dwarf        2’ to 4’       (3”)    30-36”    70 days
(Mid-season)       -Optional

Tall                   4’ to 6+’     3-4”    48”         80 days
(Late)                 -Recommended


25 Vegetables Anyone Can Grow
Ann Roe Robbins (1942)
Dover Edition: ISBN 0-486-23029-5
Pages 137-9


Now I’ll have to figure out which genes belong to which type...
(Mini rant: Anadale Mono is not a monospaced font...)

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Re: General Pea Information.
« Reply #1 on: 2019-02-11, 06:33:28 PM »
There are also some varieties that are much shorter than dwarf. I once saw a good reference refer to them as "Extra Dwarf". Tom Thumb and Mighty Midget are the two I know of. They can range from 3-7" tall. I think 6" is probably typical, but I can only find info from one year.

Mighty Midget: First to flower on May 23rd. First variety to flower. 4" tall (I think this was a dry year). (If I remember from last year I got 6-7" tall). Extra Early.

Tom Thumb: 2.5" tall (i think this was from a dry year).

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Re: General Pea Information.
« Reply #2 on: 2019-02-17, 10:08:31 PM »
I like this idea. Awhile back i started a project called "The Pea Database Collaboration Project" on the old Alan Bishop Homegrown Goodness forum (and others). There was some mild interest in it and i had a few early collaborators who helped shape the pages and provide photos of their seeds and observations.

Unfortunately due to heavy spam because of poor management and me not knowing enough to lock down the wiki i was experimenting with the site went down and the project went under. Thanks to John i was recently able to recover the text data for the wiki for the Pea Database Collaboration Project. I have backups of most of the photos.

I have decided at least for now, and probably permanently i am restoring the Pea Database Collaboration info on the OpenWetWare wiki. It was not designed for plant breeding necessarily, more for synthetic biology, IGEM, and other biology or chemistry science. But since their motto is "Share your science" i figure it will be fairly safe. In fact that is where i first started testing this idea before moving it to my website. In fact the original page was still there untouched when i went to restore the first one. I plan to back these up on my website later on (possibly in plain static html). The good thing about OpenWetWare is that they already have heavy anti-spam technologies in place. Later on i may decide to restore my wild tomato species info and watermelon genetics on there too.

https://openwetware.org/wiki/Pea_Database_Collaboration_Project

https://openwetware.org/wiki/Pea_Database_Collaboration_Project/Example-Template

http://biolumo.com/

Give me some time to restore the pages and as many of the photos as well. I also need to write the JIC John Innes Centre and ask that their pgene genetics database be fixed so my links in this wiki actually work again. Not all of the varieties listed on the main page even had pages created for them though. In fact i think Dwarf Grey Sugar was planned but never created, among others.

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Re: General Pea Information.
« Reply #3 on: 2019-02-18, 03:43:51 PM »
That’s great news!
Do you think that JIC would let you mirror the relevant pages, so you wouldn’t have to worry about broken links?
Items that reach a reasonable stage of completeness get added to static html site?

Just tossing ideas out there.
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Re: General Pea Information.
« Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 01:26:42 PM »

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Re: General Pea Information.
« Reply #5 on: Today at 03:07:17 PM »
Give me some time to restore the pages and as many of the photos as well. I also need to write the JIC John Innes Centre and ask that their pgene genetics database be fixed so my links in this wiki actually work again. Not all of the varieties listed on the main page even had pages created for them though. In fact i think Dwarf Grey Sugar was planned but never created, among others.

Great project  :)

Last night I updated some of the JIC SeedStor accession and Pgene database links. New to editing a wiki so learning as I go.

I'll be recording data on all the varieties I grow this year, around 25. One early observation made while soaking some 'Kent Blue' peas - the blue-speckled seed remains desiccated and hard in the same time it takes the greens and browns to swell and fully germinate. Which may conform to the assertion that proanthocyandins in the seedcoat act as a germination inhibitor https://peerj.com/articles/6263/ . Or maybe they have thicker testa. Could this be an adaptation to dry climate?

(That pink flowered Golden Sweet is truly beautiful!)