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Plant Breeding / Re: TPS 2019
« Last post by Doro on Yesterday at 03:59:16 PM »
We had a cool week here with nights at 2-5C and days 10-15C. Some good rain too, probably around 90mm. The rain measuring tube overflowed lol so I don't know exactly. Next week seems to be the same, not much sunshine ahead.
So far growth is slow but steady, no transplant losses.
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It is really nice and I feel lucky that our small village still has a strong community feeling.
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Plant Breeding / Re: Direct Seeded Tomato Project
« Last post by Joseph Lofthouse on Yesterday at 03:23:20 PM »
It seems to me, like the self-incompatible trait is dominant. Therefore, I expect domestic pollen to only move into that portion (25%) of the halflings that have two self-compatible genes (maybe there are 2 pairs of genes, I didn't keep enough records to do the math). Pollen flow is more likely from the halflings to the domestics.

Last year in my garden, it was easy to observe the self-compatible plants. They set fruits on every blossom. The self-incompatible plants didn't set fruits on the first few clusters. They only set fruits later, when the bumble bees were active.

I find myself in an odd place. Lots of varieties and types of tomatoes are emerging from this project. I am only interested in a very small subset of them. I aim to completely change the way tomatoes are grown, so I'm not much interested in sharing seed from those varieties that could fit into the current inbred tomato model.

I'm growing a bunch of plants this year that are 1/4 wild. I'm thrilled with the 1/4 wilds, because they have finally incorporated my Cold Tolerant project, and my Tasty Beefsteak project into the wild lines.

I'm also growing lots of plants that are 1/2 wild, and some that might be 3/4 wild.

I'm heading out to the garden now to direct seed halflings. 



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That's so nice to see Doro in a world of full of 'takers'
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Plant Breeding / Re: TPS 2019
« Last post by Lauren on Yesterday at 09:06:06 AM »
I planted about 30 seeds and got five plants out in the garden. Still tiny, but OK so far. This is the first year I've gotten anything to plant, although I've been trying for about four years. If I can get seeds (or seed potatoes) from any of the five, I'll be OK. Otherwise just keep planting and trying until I run out of seeds.
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Plant Breeding / Re: tiny seeded melon
« Last post by Dominic J on Yesterday at 08:50:16 AM »
Also, my apologies, I realized after that those subjects had already been brought up earlier in this very thread. Whoops, my bad.
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Plant Breeding / Re: tiny seeded melon
« Last post by Lauren on Yesterday at 08:47:28 AM »
I suspect the seeds your neighbor gave you might be flat and unviable, but without more information it's hard to know for sure.
No, they were just like other watermelon seeds, hard and fat, just small. Viable or not is more open to question, but they just looked like tiny watermelon seeds. I'll see if I can find them (they're somewhere in one of my seed boxes lol)
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Me and a few other locals are starting a participatory plant breeding project to develop two new watermelon varieites. One of the target varieties would  be a citron cross, so I'd love to participate! I got some citron seeds from GRIN, but they don't seem very red (do they lose color with age?) but starting with selected specimens would probably be even better. I'm in Canada, so we are also crossing that with small short-season varieties and cold resistant germplasm.

Cool! Yeah send me a PM or email with your address and I'll send you some F3 / bee pollinated back cross seeds! I have plenty to share. Red seeds do seem to fade over time, but I also have seed variability between different red seeded varieties. I have yet to see red seeds reemerge as black is very dominant.
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Plant Breeding / Re: Direct Seeded Tomato Project
« Last post by William S. on Yesterday at 06:33:27 AM »
Growing our own tomato seeds sure gives us options. Like my 3/4 oz of direct seeded seed. Probably direct seeded a similar amount last year and the year before. Though this is the first year I felt I had enough half wild seeds to add some in.

Most of my half wilds grow slow compared to domestics and peruvianum. My thought is that domestics and peruvianum are R selected field weeds. Then Hab and Pennellii are K selected wildflowers. Probably are roots first strategists.

I found a couple really domestic looking and growing plants in the cells devoted to my saved half wild seed from last year. Last year which shoulda coulda produced enough half wild seed for my whole project this year only produced enough for a couple flats. I think the bed I had them in might be low N. I was digging it up and found some sawdust. So maybe I selected for short seasonality in a low N environment last year with my two producing plants.
Those seedlings sure are segregating a lot though.

I think all told half wilds and wilds are expanding their footprint to about half or more of my transplant tomato beds. However they are a relatively small proportion of the direct seeded mixture. Though any promiscuous half wild plants that germinate and survive in the direct seeded mixture are liable to take up domestic pollen and produce some 3/4 domestic offspring. That might be ok too. If I find such a plant or plants it may make for some very interesting additions to a 2020 direct seeded project. Maybe that is where those couple domestic looking and growing plants came from this year or maybe it's just segregation.

Even my Fairy Hollow half wild plants are segregating alot. That should be interesting! I only grew a few transplants and added the rest of the packet direct seeded. Got one that's potato leaved.

I'm planting a few clumps but mostly just things I didn't want enough of to divide. Non segregating things mostly. I guess that means I just don't like to thin.
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Plant Breeding / Re: Colorado Red Seeded Citron Melon x Watermelon Hybrids
« Last post by Dominic J on Yesterday at 06:04:30 AM »
Me and a few other locals are starting a participatory plant breeding project to develop two new watermelon varieites. One of the target varieties would  be a citron cross, so I'd love to participate! I got some citron seeds from GRIN, but they don't seem very red (do they lose color with age?) but starting with selected specimens would probably be even better. I'm in Canada, so we are also crossing that with small short-season varieties and cold resistant germplasm.
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