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Seed Saving / Re: General Pea Information.
« on: Yesterday at 01:26:42 PM »

Seed Saving / Re: Seed winnower - fan advice.
« on: 2019-02-18, 03:50:48 PM »
Thanks for posting that!

What mods are you thinking of adding to this design?

Seed Saving / Re: General Pea Information.
« on: 2019-02-18, 03:43:51 PM »
That’s great news!
Do you think that JIC would let you mirror the relevant pages, so you wouldn’t have to worry about broken links?
Items that reach a reasonable stage of completeness get added to static html site?

Just tossing ideas out there.

Seed Saving / Re: Seed winnower - fan advice.
« on: 2019-02-11, 10:53:08 PM »
Oh dear, I think I’m going to have to build myself something similar.
I see you have a proper set of plans...may I inquire about your source?

As to the fan dilemma...
I don’t really have much experience with fans that small...
I would suggest regulating the air output rather than input.
Any ‘excess’ air will have several avenues of escape, assuming that the seed drawer at the bottom has not been made airtight.
Try cracking the seed capture drawer open a bit and see if that will regulate the air pressure enough for those seeds that need a lower volume of air (Itty bitties). Try opening the drawer by different amounts.
If that works, just add a small baffle to make sure that all your seeds hit the drawer.

I suspect that restricting the input will wear out your fan faster, and possibly cause irregularities in the air flow.

I can think of other low tech ways of regulating the wind, but none of them qualify as simple.

Seed Saving / General Pea Information.
« on: 2019-02-11, 01:11:11 PM »
A thread for general information about peas (not cultivar specific)
So please post your gems here. :)

                        HEIGHT        SPACING          READY(to eat)
                        -Supports     Plant  Row

Dwarf               Up to 2’       2-3”   18-24”    60 days
(Early)                -Not usually

Half-dwarf        2’ to 4’       (3”)    30-36”    70 days
(Mid-season)       -Optional

Tall                   4’ to 6+’     3-4”    48”         80 days
(Late)                 -Recommended

25 Vegetables Anyone Can Grow
Ann Roe Robbins (1942)
Dover Edition: ISBN 0-486-23029-5
Pages 137-9

Now I’ll have to figure out which genes belong to which type...
(Mini rant: Anadale Mono is not a monospaced font...)

Peas please!
A side-by-side comparison would be interesting.
It would help narrow down what is environmental/cultural and what is possibly genetic.
GENETIC PROFILE Pisum sativum ‘Dwarf Gray Sugar’

Anthocyanin: Yes {A}
Ring in Leaf Axil: Purple {D + A}
Flowers: Purple and violet {? + A}
Purple Stripe on Top of Pod: Yes {sru/srub? + A}
Testa Pattern: Purple spots {Fs? + A}

Colour: Purple and violet; see anthocyanin section.
Flowers/Node: 2 max. {fn/fna?}

Colour: Green {Gp}
Type: Edible {ppV_ or P_vv} ?

Seeds:  Green with purple dots; sometimes brown.
Testa: Grey {?}
Testa Pattern:  Purple spots. See anthocyanin section.
Cotyledon Colour: Green {i}
Cotyledon Shape: Dimpled {?}

Height: Half-dwarf; up to 3’

I’m afraid I can’t help any with the website/database problem.

In my 2015 grow-out, I planted the maroon and brown seeds in separate rows.
The resulting seed harvest was all grey with purple spots.

As the seed has aged, however, the colour of the seed coat has changed on some of them.
Specifically: any seed that had blurry purple markings, or was almost completely purple at harvest, has changed in colour.
I associate this with peas that were mature at harvest, but had not completely dried on the vine.

So in the photo, you can see the way that the colour has changed in some of them over time.
It is interesting that you haven’t seen this in your population.

Crushable pods: they are quite brittle when fully dry and crumble easily. No aeronautic or acrobatic tendancies. :)
The shelling rogue in the picture managed to fling one of it’s seeds across the counter and into parts unknown, even though I was being careful when splitting it open.

Flower per node: 2 max. I had it listed under pods/node.

Nodes to first flower: I don’t know. I’ll have to look for that this year. :)

I was a bit suprised at the half-strength household bleach, and the time period reccomended (compared to what I’ve seen in some books); but I’m inclined to listen to these pros. :)

Flower and plant pictures.
Flowers, leaf axils, pods (normal, and rogue)

Seeds from 2009, 2015, and 2017.
Pods from 2015.

Community & Forum Building / Re: Photo gallery?
« on: 2019-02-09, 05:51:44 PM »
Thanks, will try that.

I normally try to RTFM, but the links in the help section don’t work.
Also, my browser gives me warnings that the website isn’t secure when logging in.

(And the occasional issues with logging in...)

Community & Forum Building / Photo gallery?
« on: 2019-02-09, 11:45:36 AM »
Hello admins,

I don’t usually post photos to messagboards, so my experience is limited.
Does this board have a photo galllery that I can upload images to?


Remove seeds that do not look like the majority.
They might be a different variety, cross, mutant, diseased, etc...

(Plant them separately if you like)

Sometimes what you buy off the seed racks can exhibit a great deal of “variety”.
This can be fun, but not if you thought you were buying a cultivar, and plan on saving seeds.

OSSI pledged varieties / Re: Open source and UPOV?
« on: 2019-02-02, 11:15:39 PM »
I am no expert, (but you can see that this is not stopping me from posting. :) ).

I am thinking that OSSI and UPOV offer different *types* of varietal protection.
Depending on philosophical inclinations, or pragmatic realities, an individual may prefer one type over another.

OSSI seems, as an organization, to be more comparable to a specific Linux distribution (which uses a specific licencing model).

OSSoftware can be released under the GPL without being in a Linux distribution.
If your OSSoftware is released as part of a Linux distro. there will be the advantage of the distro’s promotion, quality control, and branding.

From what I can see, OSSI is operating in a manner comparable to a Linux distribution.
I’m not sure that the pledge is directly comparable to the GPL though.
Whether OSSI and UPOV are compatble: I’m skeptical.

Perhaps someone who has a better grasp of the legalities will chime in.
I am, of course, no expert; but I hope that I have been able to help a bit.

Community & Forum Building / Re: Seed Swap Announcements
« on: 2019-02-02, 10:34:02 PM »


February 16 to February 17, 2019
9 a.m. - 5 p.m.

This year it will be at the Planetarium, not at the Botanic Gardens.
(Viau metro station)

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