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Yeah, that's what i'm thinking,  that it is telling you when the first flower will appear,  but not saying how tall the pea makes it at full maturity. Also,  yeah what if you have a crazy mutant that branches 5 times like I did once,  do all the nodes on each branch go into that number too? Too bad total nodes are not listed,  but how useful is that info anyway if something like branching affects it?

Plant Breeding / Re: Lima Beans
« on: 2019-03-12, 12:17:58 PM »
I currently do not, but I would like to. I'm saddened that Lima beans are being replaced by soybeans more and more. I'm also open to southern "butter beans", which are just a certain kind of lima bean.

P.s. if anyone is growing non gmo black soybeans, I would also be interested to growing those.

I have shipped off my copy,  but it sounds like there are still others who have copies to share.

Community & Forum Building / Re: Welcome and Introduce Yourself!
« on: 2019-03-07, 09:40:32 AM »
I have been lucky enough to have my garlic produce true seed. I say lucky enough because it was pure luck. I haven’t done anything but planted some clearance Chesnok Red garlic late, notice abundant flowers and then remove bulbils. Actually the only reason I had the flowers was because of laziness that year. I had just started gardening and happened upon homegrown goodness while looking for info on a top setting onion. From there I found the tread on true garlic seed. It then became a project that really have gotten into. I got true seed my first year (2014) and managed to get some to grow. Most didn’t make it but one did. My Chesnok Red also produces seed in 2015 and 2016. I got one to grow from the 2015 seed harvest. They have since grown to full but small bulbs that have been divided and replanted and are still growing in my small patch. The 2016 seed harvest of over 1000 seeds was winter sown this year.

Hey! Good to see you!

While i'm not currently growing garlic I am highly interested in the true garlic and onion seed projects. Feel free to start a thread about it if there is not already one. I like following its progress along with true sweet potato seed. Also i'm interested to learn more about the apparent anti movement that was hinted at with the big government people and destroying true onion and garlic seed plants.

Sounds like a good plan.  Were you also growing those tiny tomato sized watermelon seeds? How are those watermelons doing?

Seed Saving / Re: General Pea Information.
« on: 2019-02-24, 11:29:23 AM »

The speckled seed has been in the soil for a week with no signs of life. Stripped off some of the testa and resoaked - they're alive! If I left them to their own devices I'm not sure how many weeks later they would have naturally germinated. It's definitely a strategy for later emergence. And no signs of mold.

Most of my peas take about 3 weeks to germinate. When direct seeded without pre soaking.

Seed Saving / Re: General Pea Information.
« on: 2019-02-21, 09:37:14 AM »
Great project  :)

Last night I updated some of the JIC SeedStor accession and Pgene database links. New to editing a wiki so learning as I go.

I'll be recording data on all the varieties I grow this year, around 25. One early observation made while soaking some 'Kent Blue' peas - the blue-speckled seed remains desiccated and hard in the same time it takes the greens and browns to swell and fully germinate. Which may conform to the assertion that proanthocyandins in the seedcoat act as a germination inhibitor . Or maybe they have thicker testa. Could this be an adaptation to dry climate?

(That pink flowered Golden Sweet is truly beautiful!)

Hey thanks! I actually noticed the links you fixed! That weird spam filter on the JIC website is still there,  but at least the links work now.

The seeds and pod shape on my dwarf grey sugar peas remind me a lot of Kent Blue. Do you think they could be the same or highly related variety?

Not sure. A lot of the rounder seeds seem to have more starch and this might germinate slower,  but I don't know.

I just added a new pea trait table to the wiki. I was using it in excel / libre office for personal use to figure out which traits were on separate chromosomes and which ones were on the same one.

Plant Breeding / Re: orange sweet corn
« on: 2019-02-19, 07:53:55 PM »
I say go for it! The more genetic diversity the better!

Seed Saving / Re: Propagating Green Cacti Fruit
« on: 2019-02-19, 09:38:58 AM »
Opuntia -  By coincidence a related question was raised just this evening on an Aussie board - are there spineless Opuntia available in the US? Burbank was cited as a source. Any variety names? Australian sources? (I doubt this - we spent a huge effort in obliterating the bloody thing)

I do have a fruiting cactus gifted to me by Rowan from HG, that is hanging on - I'm looking to propagate some insurance plants.

Yeah,  the Burbank one is nearly spineless as are the others if they are different from each other.

I tried buying that one once,  but I think It died outside once winter hit. I may try buying it again. I have two nearly spineless specimens that I have right now. One i think i got from Joseph when I requested some purple flowered opuntia. Bonus if it has both traits. The other one i ordered from Texas on etsy. It has also survived my winter.

I'm interested in nearly spineless and those with purple flowered rather than yellow.

Seed Saving / Re: General Pea Information.
« on: 2019-02-17, 10:08:31 PM »
I like this idea. Awhile back i started a project called "The Pea Database Collaboration Project" on the old Alan Bishop Homegrown Goodness forum (and others). There was some mild interest in it and i had a few early collaborators who helped shape the pages and provide photos of their seeds and observations.

Unfortunately due to heavy spam because of poor management and me not knowing enough to lock down the wiki i was experimenting with the site went down and the project went under. Thanks to John i was recently able to recover the text data for the wiki for the Pea Database Collaboration Project. I have backups of most of the photos.

I have decided at least for now, and probably permanently i am restoring the Pea Database Collaboration info on the OpenWetWare wiki. It was not designed for plant breeding necessarily, more for synthetic biology, IGEM, and other biology or chemistry science. But since their motto is "Share your science" i figure it will be fairly safe. In fact that is where i first started testing this idea before moving it to my website. In fact the original page was still there untouched when i went to restore the first one. I plan to back these up on my website later on (possibly in plain static html). The good thing about OpenWetWare is that they already have heavy anti-spam technologies in place. Later on i may decide to restore my wild tomato species info and watermelon genetics on there too.

Give me some time to restore the pages and as many of the photos as well. I also need to write the JIC John Innes Centre and ask that their pgene genetics database be fixed so my links in this wiki actually work again. Not all of the varieties listed on the main page even had pages created for them though. In fact i think Dwarf Grey Sugar was planned but never created, among others.

It would be interesting to know from the indie plant breeding community how much land one uses to breed, select and proliferate the seed of new varieties. I'd imagine the area varies quite a lot depending on location, crop and desired outcomes. Would any be willing to give a newbie some insight?

I've been aiming for around 1/2 acre for a 'living gene-bank' - for the conservation and re-breeding of some heritage legumes, potatoes and flax to be adapted to the local climate and able to thrive in the new extremes.  Is this a feasible size to start with?

Many thanks in advance.

Up until now I have been using my parents back yard for plant breeding projects. The size of their complete property looks to be about 0.41 acres. So I've maybe used a third of that at most. So back yard or garden breeding is certainly possible. I've had to resort to making calls on what is a priority and rotating crops per year. Peas, Corn, teosinte, watermelon, and squash have been my main crops I've targeted over the years.

UV-C light may be another method of effective decontamination on small scale. There's also evidence that it increases biotic stress resistance in the resulting plants.

Could you provide some scholarly articles or peer reviewed documents to support this idea? There were a few of us discussing UVC on the homegrown goodness forum for potential mutation breeding.

I have used the TGRC treatment method for germinating wild tomato seeds with success. 50% water 50% household bleach. But I have my doubts about the need for it for germinating galapagos species other than as a disease fighting measure.

Seed Saving / Re: General Pea Information.
« on: 2019-02-11, 06:33:28 PM »
There are also some varieties that are much shorter than dwarf. I once saw a good reference refer to them as "Extra Dwarf". Tom Thumb and Mighty Midget are the two I know of. They can range from 3-7" tall. I think 6" is probably typical, but I can only find info from one year.

Mighty Midget: First to flower on May 23rd. First variety to flower. 4" tall (I think this was a dry year). (If I remember from last year I got 6-7" tall). Extra Early.

Tom Thumb: 2.5" tall (i think this was from a dry year).

Would you like a sample of seeds of mine to compare with yours?

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