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I direct-seeded my sweet potato seeds this year as seed grown annuals.

I still have clones from last year that I could plant as well.

I hope to do that next year on a pretty large scale, at least 1000 seeds. This year I only started a few and have a few volunteers. Volunteers last couple years matured fully so I know direct seeding will work. For now I'll sure be glad when my new varieties arrive. 

Look forward to hearing how yours do. Do you have any sprouts?

Plant Breeding / Re: Peas 2019
« on: Yesterday at 04:09:57 AM »
I went out and sampled one of the hyper-tendril growths. Kinda like chewing on slightly pea flavored mono-filament fishing line. Probably not a good test though cause the plants are nearing maturity, they might be a lot better if harvested small. 

Plant Breeding / Re: Peas 2019
« on: 2019-06-16, 09:41:52 AM »
Yes, @reed that sounds like Sugar Magnolia, which I have and may very well have sent to you. Sugar Magnolia has both the hyper-tendril trait (tho not always) and the purple pods.

Humm, Hard to tell what's going on for sure, lots of plats intermingled, plus lots of tomatoes and corn plus lots of weeds due to lots of rain and not being able to tend the gardens much.  I'll have to look closer, maybe those hyper tendrils and the purple pods are are on the same plants.

I was dropping peas cause it usually gets so hot and dry they don't make anything but this year they are some of the happiest plants out there and the purple ones are sooo good. Think I'll keep them around.

Rain and rain and rain some more so I got out my folder of material I'v printed about sweet potatoes and reread most of it. Glad I did cause a couple things I had forgot about are pretty important.

One is that forcing plants to flower might pass poor flowering into offspring and since I want plants to flower on their own I'm not sue I'll do much as far as forcing. I say not sure because it occurs to me the opposite of that might also be true, that forcing one to flower and crossing to one that flowers freely might result in offspring that flower just fine.

The other thing concerns female sterility. That is concerning cause I'v seen plants that bloom a lot but don't set seeds. Some are reportedly sterile in both directions but  that can't be assumed so I'm thinking from now on if you bloom but don't set seed then you need to go. And maybe it would be prudent to only keep seed collected after the bloom but no seed plants are  culled.

If a person only wanted new kinds to clone from there on, neither of those things would matter but I'm thinking for my purposes maybe should take them more seriously.

Environment in our house is not at all friendly to sweet potatoes and we have long periods of little to no sunshine in winter.  My plants can look pretty bad by spring but only thing I'v done that actually killed one was keeping them too wet.

Plant Breeding / Re: Peas 2019
« on: 2019-06-16, 07:46:50 AM »
I was just out looking at my peas. I had decided to drop them from my garden but had a bunch of seed that I just pitched out on the ground back before I planted corn and tomatoes. A lot of vines survived my planting those other crops and are producing pretty well right now. I have one with white flowers and green pods which are nicely sweet but only when quite small. One with yellow pods but they are not filling out, nothing much at all inside the pods.

One has dark purple pods and pretty purplish flowers, these are sweet and crunchy even when all the way mature. There is a couple kinds of them, one that stays purple and one that fades to mottled green/purple as they grow. That last one isn't as sweet. Happily, the most purple one is also the most prominent so even though I munch on them almost daily I'v got plenty almost ready to harvest for seed.

O'yea, one other kind which I guess is what's called hyper-tendril but they have made almost no pods at all.

Pretty sure the yummy purple ones came from Ferdsy in a trade a a few seasons ago.

Plant Breeding / Re: Direct Seeded Tomato Project
« on: 2019-06-14, 06:15:53 PM »
Interesting, does normal leaf, potato leaf have a know dominant/recessive relationship? If so it might help me understand origin of some of the plants in my garden.

Plant Breeding / Re: Direct Seeded Tomato Project
« on: 2019-06-14, 02:28:04 PM »

Decent numbers of potato leaf plants.

What is the significance of the potato leaf plants?

When I have one that overwintered in a pot or even a slip that I think has too many roots I cut off the top and re-root it. If you keep it very wet for a few days a cutting can be planted without any roots at all. Lots of times trimmings discarded on the ground root down and resume growing.

Still cool and wet here, not so bad as to do a lot of harm but enough so that my sweet potatoes are not growing as fast as normal. One of my new ones that came from Sow True Seeds  and was lost in the mail is perking up pretty good and YEA, the grower in Iowa report they have started shipping and expect to be done next week. Most of the new ones are coming from there and assuming mine are not in the group that are refusing to sprout slips due to cold weather, I should have them before July.

In the mean time I have planted a bunch of those I call Bushy Bloomer, BB Improved-1, and BB Improved-2 in very small pots that I can move around to facilitate pollination wherever I think it's needed.  I will probably drop the original BB after this year cause it doesn't make much in the way of usable roots. Time to weed out the non-rooters even if they do produce a lot of seeds. Any as yet unidentified traits they may have that should be kept already are kept in the seed archive.

Plant Breeding / Re: Dahlias and other edible flowers
« on: 2019-06-11, 07:58:57 PM »
Wow, lots of diversity in growth of the seed grown dahlias. These are the small ones called Mignon. Good sign I think that there is such a difference, makes me hopeful that I will see similar diversity in tubers, maybe even in flavor. The two pictured show the most extreme differences among the group of about fifty plants. Unfortunately I was unable to convince the woman to not plant any of those giant flowered ones, o'well they are a good distance away from mine and a little gene flow, if it happens, shouldn't be that big a deal.

Two of the three yellow ones died early on, the other had green mixed in with the yellow and held on for a while longer but also finally croaked.

Community & Forum Building / Re: How's your weather 2019
« on: 2019-06-11, 12:39:04 PM »
Our spring started warm, well hot really and rather dry. Early planted things took off pretty good. I started digging the first patch of potatoes, just for immediate use a couple weeks ago. There were no frosts this year to help select the more tolerant volunteer tomatoes, they are blooming now but so are some of the transplanted ones.

Last couple weeks, especially starting last Wednesday unusually cool wet moved in. About 9 inches total rain with most of it in two downpours with pretty much steady drizzle in between. Weeds are pretty established all over but my crops are well ahead of them. First patch of corn although badly lodged in the first storm last week has recovered and is about waist high. Noticed first flowers on common beans last week. Harvested turnip and a few radish seeds this morning and pitched the old plants between the corn rows for mulch.

Dry breezes and sunshine today so getting a lot of weeding done before the next round of rain, scheduled to start tomorrow.

My sweet potatoes are doing fine but I am a little worried about getting my new ones from the grower in Iowa. Weeks of cool rain there prevented their parent roots from sprouting slips. Assuming they come along with better weather there I may not get them till July but that should still be workable. I saved my slip roots and they continue to pump them out so I won't have any empty spaces in any event. Continued cool wet or even intermittent bouts of it will be an issue for sweet potatoes, they don't like that at all even for seed production.

I realized my past strategy of selecting for drought tolerance is a mistake, it doesn't help with rapidly fluctuating anomalies or extremes.  My new strategy is fast maturity, allowing me to get some harvest during hospitable periods and multiple planting and harvests in more uniform seasons.

The i pandurata is an impressive plant, it grows along the roads here and at the top of the river bank but it isn't real common. It's very pretty, it don't climb like a bean but its stems stand up a couple feet before falling over so if there is a fence or bushes to lean on and get tangled in it looks like it climbed. The one that makes seeds sprawls on the ground along a ditch and has vines probably 20 feet long.  it completely dies back in winter, amazing how such giant vines can grow back each year, I guess that is due to its big roots. I'v never dug up any roots so don't know what they look or taste like. The flowers are four or five inches across and there are lots of them, would make a nice ornamental if nothing else.

I guess the flooding weather from the plains has shifted east, been cool and raining here for over a week, sweet potatoes overall will not like this. 

Plant Breeding / Re: Salsify
« on: 2019-06-10, 03:44:13 AM »
Do you go ahead and replant them right away?

Some of my new varieties arrived and are planted. They were lost in the mail for awhile and had no live leaves at all but roots and stems were fine and they are already starting to sprout new growth so should be fine.

On another note, a side project not related to turning sweet potatoes into an annual seed grow crop is to see if can make a perhaps hardy perennial by crossing to i pandurata. I tried before and got two seeds that I think were pollinated by pandurata but the did not sprout.

Also last year my I pandurata seeds did not spout. I think that might be because they, unlike I batatas do need cold stratification so I put some in the freezer last fall. Got them out about a month ago and planted just in a flower pot and left it setting in the garden. They were still slow but all of a sudden they popped up.

Not sure where to put them, being a giant perennial vine I don't want them in the garden itself so need to find a spot along the edge of the yard somewhere. It will be much easier to try  crosses once they are established and I don't have to drive somewhere to collect pollen.

These all came from the same apparently self pollinated vine. I'v located seven wild plants but only this one made has made seeds. So, I'm wondering if they have similar tenancies in that regard as does batatas, mostly not self compatible but occasionally so.  If that's the case, perhaps since I have the very highly fertile types of both species I will get lucky and find crosses.

Or maybe there is another wild vine that I haven't found near the one that makes seeds, who knows?

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