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Tomatoes / Re: Hybrid of tomato more diversity
« on: Yesterday at 08:46:12 AM »
Me I would cross with a modern tomato with good verticillium wilt resistance.

Tomatoes / Re: Tomato Journal
« on: 2022-01-21, 07:22:38 PM »
Took the two little containers of tomato seed out of fermentation. The non-antho container didn't rinse as clean as usual though, probably should have left it another day. The antho container had well over 80 seeds in it- I stopped counting at 80. My guess is with the 79 from the first batch that will lead to more than forty seedlings with potato leaves. Should be more than enough for the isolation garden so some for the crossing blocks as well.

Anybody in the US want the non-antho seeds?

There is another non-antho bicolor ripening downstairs already.

Buds are getting bigger but no new flowers since the holiday trip yet. Probably too cold in the basement, but it is another warm winter here. Had some rain lately which is pretty warm for January. Still have some snow though, it hasn't all melted off.

Tomatoes / Re: Tomato Journal
« on: 2022-01-18, 04:35:42 PM »
Put some more MMS x BH F1 will be the F2 seed in to ferment today. Put the first batch into packets. Three bicolor tomatoes from two plants and one anthocyanin and bicolor.

Some more sweet cherriette seeds have germinated.

Legumes / Re: Fava breeding
« on: 2022-01-18, 03:31:21 PM »
Just got an email from Snake River Seed. Montana Rainbow Fava has 96% germination. Yay! My fava baby is going out into the world. Freeing my fava patches for further tinkering!

Corn / Re: Black corn with black cobs.
« on: 2022-01-16, 08:53:12 AM »
"This variety is a northern adapted homage to the legendary Maiz Morado/Kulli corn from Peru. Ed Shultz, the accomplished and passionate open pollinated corn breeder who spent 30 years selecting this dark purple variety, explains that Mountain Morado is was actually selected from Painted Mountain corn."

Quote from Baker Creek above.

30 years for Ed and 35 for Dave. Same starting corn Dave's.

Though another reason to choose Dave's version is that while they were trying to sell products made from the corn they paid for testing of the antioxidants and those tests look great.

Check out Ole and Dave's website here:

Though I do wonder if Ed may have decided to force Dave's hand on releasing his because Daves used to be tantalizingly advertised but only for products. Though that is mere speculation on my part. Ed did release four other corns first before he released this one.

I personally chose Dave's version direct from Northern Frontier Farms but the fact that Dave's painted mountain corn was so inspiring to me back in the 90s may have a lot to do with that.

Corn / Re: Black corn with black cobs.
« on: 2022-01-15, 05:36:03 PM »
I'm not sure. Ed Schultz selected his version from Dave Christensen's corn and Dave selected his own version from his own corn. They might be pretty similar. I grew some of Ed's papa's blue and Montana cudu/eagle mark corn. I think Ed does good work with Dave's corn. Just like Carol Deppe did some good work with Dave's corn. I just wanted Dave's version.

I started trying to pull a blue strain out of Dave's corn myself when I was a teenager. It never got as far as Ed's.

I never met either of those fellows despite being from the same state.

Tomatoes / Campbell Soup's tomato breeding program article
« on: 2022-01-15, 12:55:54 PM »

Just saw a link to this on Facebook.

Joseph crossed a tomato to a Campbell's tomato bred for his area with Jagodka link above. He ultimately named his Hamsonita. Article about the original tomato below:

Article interestingly says that direct seeding in California made transplant production in Utah uncompetitive for canning. Given my experience with direct seeding in Montana I wonder if it might be possible in more places to direct seed for canning tomatoes.

Not Campbell's Heinz but the local seed company here Triple Divide has a tomato presumably bred for ketchup production.

Tomatoes / Re: Breeding for Late Blight Resistant Tomatoes
« on: 2022-01-15, 11:18:31 AM »

I read that article! It is intriguing and Purple Zebra F1 should be an interesting variety to try. I got a message from Territorial seed that my Purple Zebra F1 seed should arrive today with Galahad F1 and Lizzano F1. It will be interesting next year to find out how they segregate. I would kind of expect the stripes to be stable and the color on Purple Zebra F1 but I doubt the precise flavor would be the same at all.

Tomatoes / Re: Tomato Journal
« on: 2022-01-14, 06:18:24 PM »
Four of my MMS x BH F1 tomatoes are now ripening downstairs. Only one of them from the high anthocyanin plant though. Also, one Sweet Cherriette seed has germinated. Flower buds are still pretty tight, but the Aztek micro dwarf has some as does the MMS x BH F1. Still no sign of buds on the LA1410 Solanum galapagense plant it is the smallest and the youngest of the older plants.

I wonder if I should prune the four non-anthocyanin MMS x BH F1 plants way back or maybe even just compost them after I pick the last of the bigger shiny tomatoes. One alternative other thing I could do with them which might be kind of cool, is emasculate all their flowers and pollinate them with the one high anthocyanin plant.

Tomatoes / Re: Tomato Journal
« on: 2022-01-12, 05:49:12 PM »
Tomato seed trades came today, and so I have about a dozen more varieties of tomato to plant this coming spring. My dwarf project dwarf tomato count is now up to eleven varieties. Also got another microdwarf orange top hat. Also I think I found two more older Russian dwarves in my seed collection from 2017. I may have to grow out all the dwarves in 2022!

Two tomatoes are ripening in the basement, MMS x BH but both of them on plants not showing anthocyanin. More blooming still seems a way off.

Tomatoes / Re: Breeding for Late Blight Resistant Tomatoes
« on: 2022-01-11, 05:21:13 PM »
I have been hearing good things about Matt's Wild Cherry for a long time now. I should probably put it on my wish list. It is pretty widely available.

Tomatoes / Re: New tomato disease
« on: 2022-01-11, 05:13:54 PM »
It may be eventually the case that the virus comes to us, but until then I am very happy it isn't here yet. I think it would be a good idea to wait for markers. Let university facilities deal with disease containment systems if needed. It looks like it maybe isn't spreading too fast and there will be resistant hybrids offered fairly soon. Then we can desegregate those hybrids to make our own open pollinated resistant tomatoes. Sort of crazy to think that we are often only one tomato pandemic away from not being able to grow tomatoes or what have you - basically insert the name of any crop in lieu of tomato.

Tomatoes / Re: Breeding for Late Blight Resistant Tomatoes
« on: 2022-01-11, 12:22:40 PM »
That makes sense if it is a third ranked tier in the article I linked. Have you tried any of the other heirloom types with "other" resistance Roland?

Tomatoes / Re: New tomato disease
« on: 2022-01-11, 07:54:06 AM »
Yeah, I am not sure even how concerned to be. Is this a disease that will rapidly be in all of our gardens or is it a disease that may never spread to most of us?

Sounds like it is transmitted via seed.

Here is a link where we can track its spread:

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